Although it was made on the cheap, “Stuck in The Upside Down” offers plenty of exciting visuals. South Carolina filmmaker Michael Nalbone handled all the production roles. In the interview below, Nalbone reveals how he made the no-budget music video using an iPhone and minimal gear.
Interview with Mike Nalbone
MobileMovieMaking: What motivated you to become a filmmaker?
Nalbone: Subconsciously, I’ve always wanted to be a filmmaker. But I think one of our biggest hurdles as filmmakers is proclaiming that we actually are one once we see the world through a viewfinder! It took me till my 30s to break out of my shell!
MobileMovieMaking:When that happened, how did you develop your moviemaking skills?
Nalbone:I am 100% a self motivated and self-taught filmmaker. I considered the fact that my age (35 at the time I started) combined with film school may have actually slowed me down or, in retrospect it may have changed my mind about filmmaking completely! In a nutshell my movie making skills come from a combination of books, trial and error, and maybe some YouTube videos. But honestly I found that almost 90% of “how to” videos were taking up time that I could actually spend out the real world just learning!
MobileMovieMaking: Are there any filmmakers who influenced your approach to making movies?
Nalbone: My influence has always come from the big boys . . . Spielberg, Zemeckis, Scorsese, Nolan, Howard and more. I also read Robert Rodriguezs’ “
Rebel Without a Crew,” which really set me off on my solo film adventure a couple years ago. He really breaks down his whole experience leaving you with the “If he can do it I can do it” mentality.
MobileMovieMaking: How did you connect with Seth Miller?
Nalbone: We are life long best friends! I first met Seth when I moved here in 1999 and we’ve been friends ever since.
MobileMovieMaking: How did you come up with the concept for the video.
Nalbone: I came up with the idea simply by my inspiration from “
Stranger Things.” I love the show and all of it cinematic aesthetics. This was no-budget and quick so I had to align my concept with what we had to use, which was Seth’s studio at his home and whatever we could find lurking in the dark at a nearby nature trail.
MobileMovieMaking: How did you plan the shoot?
Nalbone: Ironically all of my videos have some type of preproduction and whatever storyboarding I can conjure up with my doodling skills. However, this one was completely unscripted, formed from live creativity in the moment. With that being said, it’s not the best method when you’re trying to tell a story but if it’s done right no one can know the difference!
MobileMovieMaking: Can you tell us anything about the locations?
Nalbone: Interior shots were all done in the comfort of Seth’s at-home studio. The exterior shots were done on the
Palmetto Trail here in South Carolina. It’s a nature trail that extends far through the Appalachians and is still under construction.
MobileMovieMaking: What gear did you use?
Nalbone: Some people don’t believe me but with a steady hand and the new iPhone 13’s excellent ibis system I didn’t need a gimbal or stabilizer. This was all done by hand. For lighting I used one RGB outside the window and set it to solid red. In the studio I wanted to create a glow on the subject, but not light him up completely so we bumped up the brightness on the monitors and I set one key light 8 feet high out of frame to just give a little edge on the hair and shoulders. However I wanted it to expand the atmosphere of the studio affect so I left the light stand in clear view. You may notice it when you watch the video now. To create depth of field I periodically just ran the fog machine I got from Amazon and wafted it around the room to give it some haze.
MobileMovieMaking: What about when you were shooting outdoors?
Nalbone: I put a miniature RGB on a pole and held it over his head while I walked and did my follow/ tracking shots holding my phone in the other hand. This was a little strenuous and cramped my shoulder bad so I don’t recommend this method. It’s been almost a month and my shoulder still isn’t right.
MobileMovieMaking: What are the advantages of shooting with a mobile device rather than a traditional camera?
Nalbone: Ah yes this is one of the most common conversations among filmmakers and photographers alike. And I could go all day. Basically both a mobile phone and a traditional camera have their own advantages and disadvantages. But now more than ever some of these flagship phones give you the opportunity right out of the box to create something worthy of festivals, ads, content, etc. There’s companies like Moment and Beast grip that provide exceptional quality lenses you can attach to your phone and blow peoples minds with the results. Honestly with the exception of low light, you can shoot almost any production with a smart phone. It really just comes down to how you’re telling the story with your camera movement, angles, composition light and sound. And of course your production value will climb when you upgrade to anything like a DSLR, Full frame mirrorless or cinema camera. Using these cameras though takes a whole other level of understanding the dynamics of your equipment. But if you are truly a filmmaker then that learning curve will feel like a new adventure. I personally shoot on Sony and love it!
MobileMovieMaking: How long did the shoot take?
Nalbone: About five hours. We spent about two hours indoors and ran through the song about six times with a different angle each time. Then we spent an hour driving around till we figured that we wanted to go to the Palmetto Trail and spent another two hours there.
MobileMovieMaking: During the shoot, did you encounter any unexpected problems?
Nalbone: If I’m being completely honest? The whole shoot felt like a problem because we were winging it with no plan and I set my expectations low until I got home, dumped the files and realized I actually had something I could work with! Then when I started editing I took a step back and said, this might actually be a good video for what I got!
MobileMovieMaking: Can you talk about your method for directing Seth?
Nalbone: Because we are best friends my method was as simple as being ourselves! So for the shoot when I give Seth direction it’s usually in reference to something we experienced together and he instantly clicks and knows what to do. However this is not a proven method when working with new clients, actors, crew etc. Not everyone will understand your jokes lol. It’s all about your comfort zone and what comes naturally don’t be afraid to emphasize your vision just don’t push it hard and confuse everyone. And always be open for other peoples creative minds and ideas. There’s always something to kick it up a notch that you don’t think of.
MobileMovieMaking: What was your process in editing the video?
Nalbone: I do all my editing in the latest version of
Adobe Premiere Pro. First thing I always do is dump the files in a folder I’ve created for that project. (ALWAYS dump your files asap after your shoots. Losing your entire shoot to the laundry machine will have you questioning your existence as a filmmaker. Like you will feel really stupid when it happens.) Then I go through them watching each one beginning to end trimming down the good ones and trashing the duds. Always name each movie file. Nothing is worse than a timeline full of the movie files that are just numbers and gibberish. This takes up so much freaking time but it’s worth it and trains you to be a better editor and treat your footage with respect. After that I’ll trash anything that needs trashing then consolidate all the shots. Exterior goes in the exterior folder, interior goes in the interior folder etc. After that I open up Adobe, drag my sound file to the time line and and go with what I’m watching in my head. I’ll start pulling clips out of my interior and exterior folders arranging them till it starts to flow. This process goes back-and-forth for a while because I’m very critical with myself and sometimes I’ll completely scratch a sequence and start over.
MobileMovieMaking: How do you feel about the finished video? Would you do something different next time?
Nalbone: I won’t give it a letter grade or a numbered star rating however I will say it could’ve been much better. One thing I regret is moving quickly and just using the native camera app where I could’ve utilized FiLMiC Pro had I taken the time to dial-in better settings for the low light conditions. I feel the resolution quality of the video could’ve been more crisp and clean had a gone extra lengths and put in the effort to make it that way. Also I have no current skills with after effects. I’m hoping to get better at that later so I struggle with my titles and any animations. I happen to think the red lettering “Stuck in The Upside Down” at the intro is too grainy and dark. And I had that ramped all the way up so not sure what I didn’t do right there! On the other hand though, Seth absolutely loves the video and thinks it’s the best thing since sliced bread! So like I said before I may be too critical of my own work.
MobileMovieMaking: Is there anything else you want to say about the production?
Nalbone: I hope it makes its rounds for the whole world to see because the song is great and comes from a very talented artist! Also, I really just want to create things for people to enjoy and be inspired by. My goal in film is to produce and direct a major motion picture for the big screen before I’m 70. I feel like cinema is not quite what it used to be. Some of the greatest filmmakers of my time are reaching the end of their careers or have passed away. So who will fill in the void? It’s definitely not Marvel! (There, I said it)
MobileMovieMaking: What advice would you give to someone who is just starting out making music videos?
Nalbone: Don’t stop. Always give your brain something new to learn from it. And by this I mean grab the camera and go. Search for highly rated filmmaking books online or Amazon. WATCH MOVIES. One thing I’ve always noticed about myself is I relate highly to one of the most inspiring things Quentin Tarantino ever said: “When people ask me if I went to film school, I tell them no, I went to films”. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to watch a scene and take note of how the camera is moving where the light comes from, how the characters are filling the space and feeding off each other. Just watch movies and focus on all the elements that pull the story together. Go out, do that with your friends and boom, you’re making a movie!
MobileMovieMaking: What’s the best way for us to keep up with your work?
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Wow! Amazing. That’s my son!!!